Buffering delays

GDAS

I just downloaded Video Editor again a couple of days ago as I cannot get the code to match up to the Editing Program I am using, and that's happened before. It appears that I am just wasting money all the time. You pay for a download, and then after 6 months, the Video editing program is not valid. Correct me if I am wrong!

I am not here to Talk about that as I am at the end of my tether here.

How come Borate you say all these things about fixing the buffering problem IN VIDEO EDITING when it should fire up and run properly from Gecko?

Secondly, This newest version is so crappy in regards to the buffering than the previous versions from 2022 which was the last one I had installed and every time I adjust something on the timeline, it will not run properly until it finishes its Buffering which can take up to 5 minutes on a 10-minute video. I want to make a 1/2 Hr video not a 10 minutes video.

I watched the CPU on my computer and it is hitting 100% usage when it's buffering yet only runs on 5% when normal running of the video when no Buffering is happening. Now why is that? Never done it with the previous version!

I have a 1 Terabyte SSD for my Main drive and also another 1 terabyte SSD for my folders now, as I lost the old folder hard drive as it blew up when using Video Editor The HDD was only 3.5 years old! Is the quality of HDD getting worst?

It appears a lot of people are having the same problem.

What is your answer to that?

borate

GDAS wrote:

I cannot get the code to match up to the Editing Program I am using

Not understood; please explain more fully. A one-time purchase does not expire, and there's no mandate to update. Newer releases can always be tested for free.
VP is continuously developed, and performs well for most users. Bugs are quickly addressed.

Video editing is resource intensive, For lengthy or complex projects at least a low-end gaming-class PC is often recommended.

Use the 64-bit release. Start each project by clicking OPTIONS | DISK tab and Clear Unused Cache Files. For large, high-def projects, consider using proxies, - a common procedure that takes a bit of time to set up but may eliminate buffering entirely while editing.

Take the time to share a project that's giving you fits and someone will check it out. Follow these four steps closely, and don't forget to make the link public...

Back up --- With your project on the timeline, click on MENU at the top-left. Click FILE|BACK UP PROJECT FILES TO FOLDER. Choose a folder and SELECT FOLDER.
Upload --- Use a free server - Google Drive, MS OneDrive, etc.* - to upload the saved, numbered FOLDER. Do NOT upload the individual VPJ or export file.
Get link --- Right-click the file and click SHARE. If using Google, right-click the file, click SHARE | SHARE. Change "restricted" to "anyone ... can view"
Share --- Click COPY LINK or OK | DONE. Paste that link here, or click the folder at the top-right of this forum to message it privately. It won't be shared.

* Before uploading, right-click the folder, click PROPERTIES. Look at the File Size to confirm that it's not too big for the free space on the server.

GDAS

Hi Borate yes it is true that the old NCH Video Editor won't open on its designated password. Never mind about that as everything else works excellent with this new Video Editor except the extremely bad buffering.

Let me explain again what I have noticed.

Suppose I only edited a word in Text or edited a video clip or add a Photo. In that case, it takes 3 minutes to carry out the buffering on 10 minutes of already edited video.

This is the problem only and it is annoying.

SO....

So I went to Task Manager and opened up Performances in the headings as you do and then watched as I did a bit of editing in the program and then all of a sudden as explained, the Buffering window opened and the drag started etc. On observing my CPU it was reaching at 100% drainage but the GPU was just using about 6 to 10% usage.

Now, naturally, I go and do some investigation and see that My CPU is well underpowered and my GPU does seem to be ok.

My CPU is - Intel(R) Core(TM) I7-2600 CPU @3.4GHZ. - according to the net not enough cores!

My GPU is - Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Hmm I suggest there could be something wrong but does not go any higher than 16% when buffering only in video editor.

My Memory - 16GB DDR3 RAM seems to be enough to carry out a fairly smooth video viewing but 32 GB of RAM would be better no doubt.

This leads to, "it appears what your Computer was capable of doing 4 years ago does not mean it is powerful enough to carry out the Video editing of today because the Video Editing Programs have been updated to take more energy out of your Computer"

So seeing that some of the people above are having trouble with buffering I would like to see NCH come clean and tell the potential buyers of NCH VIdeo Editing program what is needed to drive the Video Editing program on your computer??

I believe the Program is quite a good program with no-nonsense frills but good for quality video editing, then they would be the leaders in the Video Editing market.

borate

Unless you have specifically configured the editor for a password, NCH doesn't require it. Your problem is well understood, and may have several causes.

Use the NVidia card. It's likely the default, but can be selected under OPTIONS | ADVANCED | GPU.

Now is the time to share the project for analysis, where discoveries may be made that minimize the issue. Link here or in a PM to me.

Consider the Proxy Editing suggestion.

GDAS

Hi Borate I have done that but it did not change. I even closed down the computer to restart as the program appeared to suggest what I should do.

I will try that again but I am sure my CPU is not up to scratch (too old like me lol)

borate

The CPU may be a factor, but until you share the project we can't tell.

GDAS

borate wrote:

The CPU may be a factor, but until you share the project we can't tell.

However, if I send this video to you in video editor mode, then nothing will be a problem with it, I am sure because I cannot close down the site while it is performing the Buffering as that is what you want to see. PS Do you ever sleep, mate? LOL You are so into it and NCH should be so proud of you. Cheers

borate

The buffering when you make changes should not pose a problem.

Just load the already edited video as fully as possible, click the Menu icon at the top-left of the window and choose Save Portable Project As.

The result will be numbered folder. Upload that folder to a server, get a public (shared) link, and paste that link here or to me in a Private Message (via the mail folder - top-right).

Be sure there's enough room on the server for the project. Do that by right-clicking the saved folder, clicking PROPERTIES and looking at the file size.

If using Google Drive, after the upload completes, click SHARE | SHARE and change "restricted" to "anyone can view."

GDAS

Hi Borate, I just sent you another folder. Uploading to Google Drive this time took 20 minutes, so it should not be empty.
Anyway, another development I saw happening last night 1) the Buffering line colour disappeared altogether, and 2) half of my video on the timeline although showing on the Timeline was not showing on the screen. (Just having a Black screen). I then closed it down and reopened the Program again and although the Dark line was there as that's a sign of not being buffered, it proceeded to start to buffer again. It just seems to be getting worse. However, the video was back.

borate

Addressed in a PM.