Vidoepad v6.01 currently unusable... for me.

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In the original image you posted you did not appear to have added any effects. So this may not be your problem..(motion effect bug or not.)

The motion effect is a specific effect you can add to a clip to make it move around the frame...usually applied to text or images used as overlays on Video track 2 and higher).

C-Major wrote.."I've found this is actually a bug. Clips with Motion Effect applied will not get cached."

The cache does seem to increment here when the Position effect is applied... 2 files for each keyframe position set up.

For a single MPEG4 clip on Video Track 1 with Position effect applied (Start-End) .. Cache has 8 files.Is this incorrect then? 0- 4 relate to just the clip on the timeline. 5-6 relate to Keyframe position 1 and 7-8 to keyframe position 2.

Nat

VideoSmideo

Nationalsolo wrote:

Hi

In the original image you posted you did not appear to have added any effects. So this may not be your problem..(motion effect bug or not.)

The motion effect is a specific effect you can add to a clip to make it move around the frame...usually applied to text or images used as overlays on Video track 2 and higher).

Nat

Right on

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As an experiment and if you still have clips without the green band and there are no effects/titles/text/transitions etc....just all the clips in the clip bin and on the timeline...

Start with a New project (A Blank VP GUI)
Clear the cache.
Load your project. Leave it to re-cache......Provided all the clips are now on the timeline
Count the clips in the clip bin.
Count the files now in the cache.

For every clip there should be 5 files in the cache.

e.g. I have loaded 5 MPEG4 clips to the clip bin and placed them on the timeline. I have 25 files in the Cache.

Nat

c_major_2

We've applied a fix to the web site build to fix the Motion Effect bug. Please download it and try it out.

I just tried slow motion. The caching seems to work fine.

BTW: Nat is right, there should be 5 files in the cache for each video clip added to your project.

VideoSmideo

How do I count the files in cache? I see my clips and I see them in the sequence.

How do I get v6.01 again. I was only up to 5.2 when prompted to get 6 after it crashed. I'm 5.2 now.

borate

Chances are that 6.x installer is on your disk. But why not download the latest.

Hardware acceleration is available in the current version. Test it both ON and OFF.

VideoSmideo

borate wrote:

Chances are that 6.x installer is on your disk. But why not download the latest.

Hardware acceleration is available in the current version. Test it both ON and OFF.

My reg code is not good for 6. I'm happy to keep trying and pay for upgrade if it works but gonna need a code.

borate

The trial version doesn't require a code, but certain features may be unavailable.

VideoSmideo

Ok I'm back in v6.

I've loaded 39 clips that total 22 minutes of iphone 1080 60fps .mov files. It can't seem to handle it. I'm trying to export the whole thing to mp4 and then will try to work with that. Updates coming...

Update #1 Exporting the original clips to single 3.3GB 60fps 1080p MP4 file took 73 minutes.

Update #2 the newly loaded file is half way green-cached. I split the clip 8 seconds in and now anything after that split is stuck "building preview, please wait." However the time is still advancing along with the audio. I will try again if and when it completely caches.

I would have lost this bet... I really thought a single 22 minute already converted to mp4 file would have worked.

Update #3 Fully cached, computer CPU not working on it anymore. Still stuck in building preview after first and only edit, that first split.

Update #4 Tried hardware accelerated video effects unchecked and restarted program. No Joy. Cached, but stuck on "building preview please wait" along with sound and time progressing.

Update #5 Lowered the preview res to 512x288 and 25 fps. Even before caching it immediately works as expected. Is it viable option for me? No, because < 12 fps in slow is too low to view at this res (accidentally put missed buckets in the highlights). But hopefully this is helpful to target core issue. I can also add that issues seem to be unrelated to computer resources which were never near max. Limitations in higher preview mode seems to be related to videopad.

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VideoSmideo wrote:

How do I count the files in cache? I see my clips and I see them in the sequence.

Under Options/Disk you should see the address of the cache file on your PC. It will be something like...

C:\Users\Name\AppData\Local\Temp\VideoPadCache. Navigate there and simply open the folder. There should be a list of files......

e.g.

This is the state of the cache when two MPEG4 clips are on the timeline. (Starting from an empty cache) There are 10 clips...0 - 9. You should be able to count them or right click the folder and look at its Properties where the number of files is shown.

Nat

VideoSmideo

Nationalsolo wrote:

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Hi

Under Options/Disk you should see the address of the cache file on your PC. It will be something like...

C:\Users\Name\AppData\Local\Temp\VideoPadCache. Navigate there and simply open the folder. There should be a list of files......

e.g.

This is the state of the cache when two MPEG4 clips are on the timeline. (Starting from an empty cache) There are 10 clips...0 - 9. You should be able to count them or right click the folder and look at its Properties where the number of files is shown.

Nat

OK, am i looking for this because it sounds related to what I shared above? I dont seem to have that folder in the expected place

https://pictr.com/image/W4QhQ

borate

It shows up here. Been using a 'cleaner' utility that has deleted the files?

"J:\Users\name\AppData\Local\Temp\VideoPadCache"

Look under OPTIONS|DISK|CACHE FOLDER to see where those files are stored on your PC.

VideoSmideo

borate wrote:

It shows up here. Been using a 'cleaner' utility that has deleted the files?

"J:\Users\name\AppData\Local\Temp\VideoPadCache"

Look under OPTIONS|DISK|CACHE FOLDER to see where those files are stored on your PC.

yup thats right C:\Users\name\AppData\Local\Temp\ and when I open that, I see what it is the screenshot https://pictr.com/image/W4QhQ

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From your screendump it seems that there is version difference from the cache point of view. Your files are simply stored in the Temp folder and not all together in a named VideoPadCache folder WITHIN the Temp folder. There have been a few changes in the way the cache works and I think this was the case in program versions before 6.xxx. Your cache files must then be VideoPad-18204-1 and VideoPad-18204-2. Open these and take a look. You will probably find they are not in the same format as found in VP6.01, as I think they contained both image copies, thumbnail copies and data files for each clip and each had a date attached. That makes things a little more difficult but doesn't solve your problem.:mellow: What if you used a conversion program like Prism to convert the MOVs to Mpegs and loaded those?

Nat

c_major_2

VideoPad-18204-1 and VideoPad-18204-2 must created by a very old version of VideoPad (I'd say 2.x).

borate

It seems that you have had different versions installed, including one that may be very long in the tooth.

Start anew, with a clean slate. Use this tool to fully uninstall Videopad. Then load the latest, and see if there's an improvement.

If not, please upload a portion of the project, up to the point where it fails, as suggested earlier. Someone can then attempt to analyze the problem.

VideoSmideo

...yea this is above my head. When I put the file location path in my web browser I do see the cache folder along with the other stuff in my screen shot. I have another Dell PC coming to replace this one because it is getting too hot. When I have a clean machine I will update this thread. For now, I'm editing on super low preview settings and it works. If this sounds related to the cache (??) I will look forward to the fresh install.

c_major wrote:

VideoPad-18204-1 and VideoPad-18204-2 must created by a very old version of VideoPad (I'd say 2.x).

The oldest version I have had on this new PC was v5.2.

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